PROOF OF CONCEPT:
Hi everyone — thanks so much for taking the time to check this out.
I’m working on a new project called HOTLINE: a podcast and content series where I talk with the people behind America’s most beloved food and hospitality brands. The goal is to understand how they built cult followings, why people line up for them, and what lessons we can take from their success.
What you’ll find here is the pilot premium edition of the show — meaning it’s the version that includes not only the full interview but also my personal reflections and learnings at the end. Alongside the episode, I’ve also included a sample newsletter (what subscribers would get each week) that captures the big takeaways in written form.
This is an early preview, and I’d love your honest feedback. Please use the form at the bottom of the page to share your thoughts: What worked? What didn’t? What do you think would make this worth listening to — and learning from — every week?
Thank you for helping me shape HOTLINE. Your feedback here will help me decide how to move forward.
— Dan
WHY DO SOME RESTAURANTS HAVE LINES OUT THE DOOR?
HOTLINE is a podcast about the places people wait for—and why.
Hosted by James Beard Award–nominated creator and restaurateur Daniel Delaney, HOTLINE explores how hospitality brands build buzz, fandom, and lasting demand.
This isn’t a show about restaurant operations. It’s about understanding how obsession is created.
Pilot: LeRoy & Lewis BBQ
Pilot: LeRoy & Lewis BBQ
HOTLINE Premium: Lessons from Evan LeRoy of LeRoy & Lewis Barbecue
The Guest: Evan LeRoy
Evan LeRoy is the co-owner and pitmaster of LeRoy & Lewis Barbecue in Austin, Texas. Since opening as a food truck in 2017, the restaurant has grown into one of the most inventive and respected barbecue destinations in the country. They’ve been recognized on Texas Monthly’s Top 50 list, climbed to #2 in their 2025 ranking, earned a Michelin star, and Evan himself was named a James Beard semifinalist.
But accolades aside, what makes LeRoy & Lewis unique is their approach: they broke from Texas barbecue tradition and built a loyal following by doing things differently.
The Interview: What We Covered
In our conversation, Evan and I talked about:
His unusual path to barbecue, starting as an English major with dreams of writing, moving into fine dining, and ultimately finding his calling in Texas BBQ.
How LeRoy & Lewis branded themselves as “New School BBQ, Old School Service,” and what that really means.
The decision to source only from local farms—even though it meant no endless brisket or ribs—and how that shaped both their menu and their identity.
Strategies for managing customer frustration around long lines, from his dad greeting guests with snacks to creating a bar menu for those who didn’t want to wait.
How he built community through Patreon, turning behind-the-scenes content into both a revenue stream and a loyalty engine.
The challenges of balancing guest expectations with his own vision, and the lessons he’s learned from missteps along the way.
My Learnings (and How You Can Apply Them)
Here are the big takeaways I pulled from Evan’s story—and how they can apply to any business:
Values Create Differentiation
Evan’s commitment to sourcing locally limited what he could serve, but that constraint forced creativity.Lesson: Constraints tied to your values can actually become your competitive edge. In your business, let your principles shape what you offer, even if it means doing something different from everyone else.
Set Expectations as Carefully as You Execute
Early social posts sometimes hyped menu items that weren’t always available, creating friction.Lesson: The story you tell must match the product you deliver. Overpromising is the fastest way to erode trust.
Own the Entire Customer Journey
From parking to waiting in line, Evan designed touchpoints to reduce frustration and create delight.Lesson: Every business has friction points. If you can anticipate them and turn them into moments of hospitality, you build loyalty instead of resentment.
Offer Multiple Entry Points
Not every customer wanted the “line-up-for-brisket” experience. By adding a bar menu, to-go options, and dinner service, Evan welcomed different types of guests.Lesson: Don’t assume one-size-fits-all. The more ways people can engage with your business, the broader and stronger your base of loyal customers will be.
Content Can Be Part of the Product
Their Patreon didn’t just market the food—it was the product. Subscribers paid to feel like insiders, creating new revenue and deeper connection.Lesson: Content isn’t just promotion. It can be a product in itself, a community builder, and a loyalty driver. Ask: what behind-the-scenes or premium access could your audience pay for?
Balance Novelty with Familiarity
“New School BBQ, Old School Service” means offering unfamiliar food in the most classic, welcoming format possible.Lesson: If you want people to embrace something new, deliver it in a context that feels safe and familiar.
Final Thought
What I took from Evan is that loyalty doesn’t happen by accident. It comes from making bold choices, sticking to your values, managing the customer experience with care, and building ways for people to feel like insiders.
Whether you’re running a restaurant, building a brand, or launching a new project, those principles hold true.
Thanks for being a Premium subscriber and supporting HOTLINE. If you’re in Austin, go see Evan and the team at LeRoy & Lewis Barbecue. And if you’re not, there’s still plenty to learn from the way they’ve built one of the most loyal followings in hospitality today.
— Dan
FEEDBACK TIME:
Thanks so much for watching and reading this early preview of HOTLINE. This project is still in the works, and your input means a lot.
Please take a moment to share your thoughts below — what worked, what didn’t, what you’d love to see in future episodes, or any ideas that come to mind. Your feedback will help me shape HOTLINE into something truly worth tuning into every week.